BIKE: RE: Forum-bicycleaustin.info Digest, Vol 9, Issue 18
Michelle Schreiber
moishekari
Sat Jun 26 15:57:26 PDT 2004
Thanks for all the bike bag suggestions!
Now I just have to make a decision....
Michelle
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> 1. Bike rack bags (Michelle Schreiber)
> 2. RE: Bike rack bags (Bob at Amp Electric)
> 3. RE: Bike rack bags (Lane S. Wimberley)
> 4. Re: Bike rack bags (Michael Zakes)
> 5. Re: Bike rack bags (Patrick Goetz)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:13:40 -0500
> From: "Michelle Schreiber" <moishekari>
> Subject: BIKE: Bike rack bags
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> OK, does anyone have a good suggestion for a STURDY saddle
> bag? I've put holes in 3 different ones already.
> I thought of a metal basket, but the cool folding ones must be bolted to
the
> bike, and I'd prefer to be able to switch off between my 2 bikes.
> Any good referrals?
>
> Thanks,
> Michelle Schreiber
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> > 1. attn: Round Rock/Williamson County cyclists: meeting
> > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM (A. Gelfand)
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> > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:50:59 -0500
> > From: "A. Gelfand" <agelfand>
> > Subject: BIKE: attn: Round Rock/Williamson County cyclists: meeting
> > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM
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> > Jeff wrote:
> >
> >
> > (1) such a facility would also invite pedestrians to walk it (as I've
seen
> > here in Austin), making cycling dangerous for the cyclists and
> pedestrians as
> > well. I do note that the facilities are planned to be "located within
> > elementary, middle
> > > and high school walk zones," so why would we expect otherwise?
> >
> > To clarify--when I called the transportation dept., I was told that
these
> > bikeways are intended to accomodate bike and foot traffic. He said that
> it
> > was not a sidewalk, though. I hope someone sends me the plan soon. It
> > sounds like a sidewalk to me.
> >
> > I'm feeling really antsy thinking that this plan is evidently underway
(I
> > know the off-road trails are being built, which is fine with me, but I
> have
> > not seen any construction of road facilities--none are planned in my
area
> > anyway). I wonder if this bike plan was put together without public (or
> > expert?) input. Hate to sound ignorant--but I am. This is the first
time
> > I've looked into city planning policies.
> >
> > We alrady have enough asphalt for everyone; the best thing for Round
Rock
> > would really be a serious attitude adjustment--but that would be way
too
> > economical, wouldn't it?
> >
> > Amy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:29:52 -0500
> From: "Bob at Amp Electric" <bob>
> Subject: RE: BIKE: Bike rack bags
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> I've had good luck with the regular black nylon-fabric type by Jandd.
> Double stitches attach all of the zippers. Can't remember where I got
> it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Michelle Schreiber
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:14 PM
> To: forum-bicycleaustin.info
> Subject: BIKE: Bike rack bags
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>
>
>
>
>
> OK, does anyone have a good suggestion for a STURDY saddle
> bag? I've put holes in 3 different ones already.
> I thought of a metal basket, but the cool folding ones must be bolted to
> the bike, and I'd prefer to be able to switch off between my 2 bikes.
> Any good referrals?
>
> Thanks,
> Michelle Schreiber
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> > 1. attn: Round Rock/Williamson County cyclists: meeting
> > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM (A. Gelfand)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:50:59 -0500
> > From: "A. Gelfand" <agelfand>
> > Subject: BIKE: attn: Round Rock/Williamson County cyclists: meeting
> > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM
> > To: forum-bicycleaustin.info
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> > Jeff wrote:
> >
> >
> > (1) such a facility would also invite pedestrians to walk it (as I've
> > seen here in Austin), making cycling dangerous for the cyclists and
> pedestrians as
> > well. I do note that the facilities are planned to be "located within
>
> > elementary, middle > and high school walk zones," so why would we
> > expect otherwise?
> >
> > To clarify--when I called the transportation dept., I was told that
> > these
> > bikeways are intended to accomodate bike and foot traffic. He said
> that
> it
> > was not a sidewalk, though. I hope someone sends me the plan soon. It
> > sounds like a sidewalk to me.
> >
> > I'm feeling really antsy thinking that this plan is evidently underway
>
> > (I
> > know the off-road trails are being built, which is fine with me, but I
> have
> > not seen any construction of road facilities--none are planned in my
> > area
> > anyway). I wonder if this bike plan was put together without public
> (or
> > expert?) input. Hate to sound ignorant--but I am. This is the first
> time
> > I've looked into city planning policies.
> >
> > We alrady have enough asphalt for everyone; the best thing for Round
> > Rock
> > would really be a serious attitude adjustment--but that would be way
> too
> > economical, wouldn't it?
> >
> > Amy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:20:26 -0500
> From: "Lane S. Wimberley" <lane>
> Subject: RE: BIKE: Bike rack bags
> To: bob
> Cc: forum-bicycleaustin.info
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> I'll second the Jandd vote. Unless you're hauling bushels of sharp,
> pointy ice axes or crampons, they are damned durable. I've hauled
> many pounds of cargo (including a weeks-worth of groceries, and a
> 12-pack of beer) in my Jandd, and it's lasted me for five years (so
> far). I bought the commuter bag, which is slightly larger (and more
> expensive) than the regular bags. They are very versatile, in
> addition to being durable and spacious.
>
> I think I paid somewhere around $75 or $80 for my bag...? Might seem
> a little expensive at first, but considering the reliability and the
> use I've gotten out of it, it's really quite a deal.
>
> The only problem I've ever found with any Jandd products is the hard
> plastic sheet that they use to stiffen many of their bag products.
> Under heavy use (especially bending), they tend to break, especially
> along natural stress concentration points, like bolt holes, etc. This
> hasn't happened to my commuter bag's plastic, but it did happen to my
> handlebar bag. Doesn't render the bag useless by any means, but it
> gets a little floppy. Very easily fixable with a stiff member (minds
> out of the gutter now; I'm talking about a piece or steel ... or wood
> ... oh, you know what I'm talking about) and duct tape. Still a very
> recommendable product.
>
> As always, your mileage may vary!
>
> -Lane
>
> Bob at Amp Electric writes:
> > I've had good luck with the regular black nylon-fabric type by Jandd.
> > Double stitches attach all of the zippers. Can't remember where I got
> > it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: forum-bicycleaustin.info-bounces
> > [mailto:forum-bicycleaustin.info-bounces] On
> > Behalf Of Michelle Schreiber
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:14 PM
> > To: forum-bicycleaustin.info
> > Subject: BIKE: Bike rack bags
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OK, does anyone have a good suggestion for a STURDY saddle
> > bag? I've put holes in 3 different ones already.
> > I thought of a metal basket, but the cool folding ones must be bolted to
> > the bike, and I'd prefer to be able to switch off between my 2 bikes.
> > Any good referrals?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michelle Schreiber
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: <forum-bicycleaustin.info-request>
> > > To: <forum-bicycleaustin.info>
> > > Date: 6/24/2004 2:01:40 PM
> > > Subject: Forum-bicycleaustin.info Digest, Vol 9, Issue 17
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> > > 1. attn: Round Rock/Williamson County cyclists: meeting
> > > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM (A. Gelfand)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:50:59 -0500
> > > From: "A. Gelfand" <agelfand>
> > > Subject: BIKE: attn: Round Rock/Williamson County cyclists: meeting
> > > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM
> > > To: forum-bicycleaustin.info
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> > > <6.0.1.1.1.20040623193919.01ad8420>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> > >
> > > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > (1) such a facility would also invite pedestrians to walk it (as I've
> > > seen here in Austin), making cycling dangerous for the cyclists and
> > pedestrians as
> > > well. I do note that the facilities are planned to be "located within
> >
> > > elementary, middle > and high school walk zones," so why would we
> > > expect otherwise?
> > >
> > > To clarify--when I called the transportation dept., I was told that
> > > these
> > > bikeways are intended to accomodate bike and foot traffic. He said
> > that
> > it
> > > was not a sidewalk, though. I hope someone sends me the plan soon. It
> > > sounds like a sidewalk to me.
> > >
> > > I'm feeling really antsy thinking that this plan is evidently underway
> >
> > > (I
> > > know the off-road trails are being built, which is fine with me, but I
> > have
> > > not seen any construction of road facilities--none are planned in my
> > > area
> > > anyway). I wonder if this bike plan was put together without public
> > (or
> > > expert?) input. Hate to sound ignorant--but I am. This is the first
> > time
> > > I've looked into city planning policies.
> > >
> > > We alrady have enough asphalt for everyone; the best thing for Round
> > > Rock
> > > would really be a serious attitude adjustment--but that would be way
> > too
> > > economical, wouldn't it?
> > >
> > > Amy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:41:20 -0500
> From: "Michael Zakes" <watcyc>
> Subject: Re: BIKE: Bike rack bags
> Cc: <forum-bicycleaustin.info>
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> I'll vouch for the Jandd stuff as well, I have a commuter pack with 10+
years of use
> and it's still running great. the only one I've ever seen come back for
warranty was
> owned by the most destructive forces in the world, a 14 yr old boy
> Michael F Zakes, prop.
> Waterloo Cycles
> 2815 Fruth
> Austin TX 78705
> 512.472.9253
>
> "I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons
of mass
> destruction to tell the world where they are."
>
> Ari Fleischer, on July 9, 2003.
>
>
> mail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lane S. Wimberley" <lane>
> To: <bob>
> Cc: <forum-bicycleaustin.info>
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 9:20 AM
> Subject: RE: BIKE: Bike rack bags
>
>
> > I'll second the Jandd vote. Unless you're hauling bushels of sharp,
> > pointy ice axes or crampons, they are damned durable. I've hauled
> > many pounds of cargo (including a weeks-worth of groceries, and a
> > 12-pack of beer) in my Jandd, and it's lasted me for five years (so
> > far). I bought the commuter bag, which is slightly larger (and more
> > expensive) than the regular bags. They are very versatile, in
> > addition to being durable and spacious.
> >
> > I think I paid somewhere around $75 or $80 for my bag...? Might seem
> > a little expensive at first, but considering the reliability and the
> > use I've gotten out of it, it's really quite a deal.
> >
> > The only problem I've ever found with any Jandd products is the hard
> > plastic sheet that they use to stiffen many of their bag products.
> > Under heavy use (especially bending), they tend to break, especially
> > along natural stress concentration points, like bolt holes, etc. This
> > hasn't happened to my commuter bag's plastic, but it did happen to my
> > handlebar bag. Doesn't render the bag useless by any means, but it
> > gets a little floppy. Very easily fixable with a stiff member (minds
> > out of the gutter now; I'm talking about a piece or steel ... or wood
> > ... oh, you know what I'm talking about) and duct tape. Still a very
> > recommendable product.
> >
> > As always, your mileage may vary!
> >
> > -Lane
> >
> > Bob at Amp Electric writes:
> > > I've had good luck with the regular black nylon-fabric type by Jandd.
> > > Double stitches attach all of the zippers. Can't remember where I got
> > > it.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: forum-bicycleaustin.info-bounces
> > > [mailto:forum-bicycleaustin.info-bounces] On
> > > Behalf Of Michelle Schreiber
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:14 PM
> > > To: forum-bicycleaustin.info
> > > Subject: BIKE: Bike rack bags
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, does anyone have a good suggestion for a STURDY saddle
> > > bag? I've put holes in 3 different ones already.
> > > I thought of a metal basket, but the cool folding ones must be bolted
to
> > > the bike, and I'd prefer to be able to switch off between my 2 bikes.
> > > Any good referrals?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Michelle Schreiber
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: <forum-bicycleaustin.info-request>
> > > > To: <forum-bicycleaustin.info>
> > > > Date: 6/24/2004 2:01:40 PM
> > > > Subject: Forum-bicycleaustin.info Digest, Vol 9, Issue 17
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> > > > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM (A. Gelfand)
> > > >
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> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:50:59 -0500
> > > > From: "A. Gelfand" <agelfand>
> > > > Subject: BIKE: attn: Round Rock/Williamson County cyclists: meeting
> > > > Thursday, July 15, 7 PM
> > > > To: forum-bicycleaustin.info
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <6.0.1.1.1.20040623193919.01ad8420>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> > > >
> > > > Jeff wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (1) such a facility would also invite pedestrians to walk it (as
I've
> > > > seen here in Austin), making cycling dangerous for the cyclists and
> > > pedestrians as
> > > > well. I do note that the facilities are planned to be "located
within
> > >
> > > > elementary, middle > and high school walk zones," so why would we
> > > > expect otherwise?
> > > >
> > > > To clarify--when I called the transportation dept., I was told that
> > > > these
> > > > bikeways are intended to accomodate bike and foot traffic. He said
> > > that
> > > it
> > > > was not a sidewalk, though. I hope someone sends me the plan soon.
It
> > > > sounds like a sidewalk to me.
> > > >
> > > > I'm feeling really antsy thinking that this plan is evidently
underway
> > >
> > > > (I
> > > > know the off-road trails are being built, which is fine with me,
but I
> > > have
> > > > not seen any construction of road facilities--none are planned in my
> > > > area
> > > > anyway). I wonder if this bike plan was put together without public
> > > (or
> > > > expert?) input. Hate to sound ignorant--but I am. This is the first
> > > time
> > > > I've looked into city planning policies.
> > > >
> > > > We alrady have enough asphalt for everyone; the best thing for Round
> > > > Rock
> > > > would really be a serious attitude adjustment--but that would be way
> > > too
> > > > economical, wouldn't it?
> > > >
> > > > Amy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:51:47 -0500
> From: Patrick Goetz <pgoetz>
> Subject: Re: BIKE: Bike rack bags
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> Michael Zakes wrote:
> > I'll vouch for the Jandd stuff as well, I have a commuter pack with 10+
years of use
> > and it's still running great. the only one I've ever seen come back for
warranty was
> > owned by the most destructive forces in the world, a 14 yr old boy
>
> It sounds like Jandd is the consensus; I have 5 Jandd bags, one which
> I've been using every day for around 7 years, and have yet to have one
> break. Allegedly they come with a lifetime warranty, but I've heard
> there are problems getting them to honor this. All saddle bags seem to
> be kind of expensive; Jandd is no exception.
>
> The one thing that is not convenient about Jandd bags is that they're
> not particulary waterproof. If it's raining hard, all your stuff will
> get wet. I've taken to carrying plastic shopping bags in my Jandd bag
> all the time and wrapping everything up in plastic bags when it starts
> to rain.
>
> Last time I was in Germany/Austria I noticed that everyone was using
> saddlebags that included a nifty raincoat attachment that covered the
> outside of the bag. After a good deal of research, I figured out that
> they were probably made by this company:
>
> http://www.ortlieb.de/
>
> These bags truly appear to be the top of the line in bicycle saddlebags,
> but they also cost $$$, and I'm not sure you can buy them at any bike
> shop in town.
>
> Finally, for commuting, these 3 would be my top choices. (The top one
> -- Jandd -- is the one I've been using every day for 7 years; if I ever
> have opportunity to get a new one I'll probably splurge and get the last
> in this list, the Ortlieb.)
>
> http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FCP
> http://www.panniers.com/index.asp
> http://www.ortlieb.de/_prod.php?lang=en&produkt=officebag
>
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