BIKE: Re: Monorail, Transit, rails-with-trails

[Nick Dalton]

I agree with Eric on this one.  Personal Rapid Transit is the only thing
with even faintly offers a service which can break even from the 
ticket cost. The more miles of cheap transit we can build the more 
space on the ground for everyone else.

NSD.


>Bike folks:
>
>I have nothing to add to this current mono-rail debate; nor do I wish to
>dampen this important discussion.
>
>However, as far as perfect transit, I am compelled to remind you of
>Personal Rapid Transit; see:
>
>Skyweb Express
>http://www.skywebexpress.com/index.html
>
>Austin Citizens for Personal Rapid Transit
>http://www.acprt.org/
>
>But until its on the ground (soon?, in Duluth, MN?), we have not much to
>talk about...,
>
>While I wait, I slave for light rail in Minneapolis, and more recently
>here in Austin; Today, I like Cap Metro Commuter Rail (as a start): the
>red line connecting Mueller, Featherlite and Saltillo District with both
>Rails AND Trails (Rails-with-Trails or RwT).
>
>I am not sure whether -light-, or -commuter-, or -circulator-, or -mono-,
>or -PRT- will win the day eventually; I just believe that cyclists should
>strongly support transit, especially that which could add up to one
>hundred miles of urban off-road bike-commuter pathways (RwT).
>
>FFI: on local RwT efforts, contact Austin Metro Trails and Greenways
>(AMTG):
>http://www.austintrails.org/ (lacks RwT info)
>
>Jeb Boyt <jeboyt>
>Dave Foster <txcwa>
>
>Stay tuned for AMTG sponsored web-based -austin bikeways- map.
>
>More transit! Less cars?!
>
>Eric Anderson <bikeeric>
>(512) 476-7304
>
>
>--- Nawdry <nawdry> wrote:
>>
>>  At 2004-07-18 13:38, Patrick Goetz wrote:
>>
>>  >The average speed of the LVM is misleading.  This relatively short
>>  system
>>  >includes 7 stops and 4 90-degree turns (see the route map at
>>  >http://www.lvmonorail.com/about_04_fastfacts.html), which is why the
>>  >average speed is so low.  Further, the Las Vegas Review Journal reports
>>
>>  >that the route is actually 4.4 miles, in which case the average speed
>>  >would be 18.85 mph.
>>  >
>>  >According to the American Public Transportation Association, the
>  > Aaverage
>  > >Street Rail Speed (FY2002) is 15.3 mph
>  > >(http://www.apta.com/research/stats/rail/lrsum.cfm), which includes
>  > lots
>  > >of long straight segments.  The bottom line is that the short,
>>  circuitous,
>>  >many-stopped Las Vegas monorail is still 15-20% faster than the any LRT
>>
>>  >system in the country, on average.  That's pathetic.
>>
>>
>>  This is by far not the most egregious of Patrick's deceptions, but it is
>>
>>  certainly one of the easiest to cor
>
>
>
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