BIKE: It's *always* dangerous to cruise Stop signs?
Michael Bluejay
bikes
Thu Apr 22 22:23:48 PDT 2004
Today while I was out running Stop signs I was thinking about Mike
Dahmus' insistence that it is *never* safe to do so. An idea occurred
to me. Assume an intersection with a four-way stop (use a monospaced
font to view properly):
| |
| |
| |
------- ---------
<< CAR
------- ---------
| ^ |
| BIKE|
| |
This is the scenario we've all been imagining. The bike is heading
north and the car is heading east at a four-way stop.
But now imagine that it's only a two-way stop, and only the east-west
traffic has a stop sign. The bike has no sign, it can keep going.
Now, we all expect that it's reasonably safe for the cyclist to cruise
through the intersection without stopping because he has the right
away. Fair enough. But if we put another Stop sign at the
intersection, and we're to believe Mike Dahmus, then suddenly the whole
universe has changed and now that once-safe intersection is magically
very, very dangerous. So much so that it's *impossible* for a cyclist
to determine whether it's safe to proceed without coming to a full and
complete stop. Before the cyclist didn't even *need* to determine
whether it was safe to proceed, but now that an extra sign has been
planted in the ground, the cyclist not only would need to determine
whether it was safe to proceed without stopping, he's completely unable
to do so. The Stop sign has magic powers and turns the whole world on
its head.
So Mike, if it's *impossible* for me to determine whether it's safe to
cruise through a four-way stop when the side traffic has a Stop sign,
how exactly is it safe to cruise through a two-way stop without
stopping when the side traffic has that same Stop sign?
-MBJ-
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