BIKE: Bikes and Traffic Laws FW: [allandale] curb extension wreck

[Jeb Boyt]

FYI  Examples of how cyclists failing to follow the traffic laws undermine 
our credibility.  Also, more discussion of curb extensions.

For what it is worth, the vast majority of the cyclists that I see on Shoal 
Creek obey the laws.  It is the few that don't, though, that stand out in 
people's minds.

Jeb

----Original Message Follows----
From: Peggy Randow <peggy.randow>
Reply-To: allandale
To: allandale
Subject: Re: [allandale] Re: curb extension wreck
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:01:52 -0500


I agree about bicyclists not following traffic rules. Many times on my ride
home from work, a bicyclist will ride right through the 4-way stop at White
Horse and White Rock without even slowing down...

At 12:51 AM 4/5/2005, you wrote:

 >By the way--while you are getting the TX Driver's Handbook, you  might get 
a
 >Rules of the Road book for bicyclists while you are at it---they need to
 >learn what a red octagon sign means as well as the yellow, red and green 
of
 >stop lights.  When everyone moves by the same rules, everyone will be 
safer.
 >
 >
 >on 4/4/05 7 50, Mark & Janet Williams at jmew wrote:
 >
 >I agree.  The cars, really the drivers, are the problem in a case like 
this,
 >not the objects in their way.  Anything can end up in the middle of the
 >street, just look at the mess the recent rains & hail brought.  Drivers
 >should slow down, be prepared and pay attention, and pick up a Texas 
Drivers
 >Handbook while they are at it to learn what solid white lines mean.
 >
 >Janet Williams
 >SBC resident
 >----- Original Message -----
 >From: "Christina De Los Santos" <cdelossantos>
 >To: <allandale>
 >Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:24 PM
 >Subject: RE: [allandale] Re: curb extension wreck
 >
 >
 > >
 > > Ditto Kerry's comments.
 > >
 > > Someone complained earlier that a moment of inattention on the part of 
a
 > > driver might cause them to hit the extension, damaging their car.  But
 > > isn't
 > > that sort of the point?  Not to damage drivers cars, of course, but to
 > > make
 > > it clear to drivers that they need to be paying attention and slowing
 > > down.
 > > I can't muster up too much sympathy for someone who hit one of the CEs
 > > when
 > > he could have just as easily hit someone's parked car, a cyclist or
 > > pedestrian, or one of our children.
 > >
 > > Christina
 > > SCB resident
 > >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: Kerry Kimbrough [mailto:kkjpr]
 > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:04 PM
 > > To: allandale
 > > Subject: [allandale] Re: curb extension wreck
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > I haven't heard any real objection to the curb extensions, except
 > > that they are somehow dangerous to cars. Honestly, this is the one
 > > gripe that makes absolutely no sense. And this wreck story is the
 > > perfect illustration.
 > >
 > > Think about it. Who is at risk from the CEs? Careless and unsafe
 > > drivers. Drivers who are going too fast to stay in the lane. Who
 > > stands to benefit from the CEs? Pedestrians that would have been hit
 > > instead. Which one are you? Whose safety are you concerned about?
 > >
 > > When someone says "CEs are dangerous", I think this is just a
 > > rationalization for the real complaint. A more honest statement
 > > might go like this: "I have to change my behavior. I used to get
 > > away with slipping into the parking/bike lane, even though I know I
 > > shouldn't. But now someone has forced the issue on me. Now I've got
 > > to straighten up or face real consequences."
 > >
 > > Which is a perfectly understandable reaction. I drive SCB all the
 > > time, and I know this has been on my mind. But I have to say it's
 > > better this way.
 > >
 > > Regards,
 > > Kerry
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