BIKE: Cedar Street cuts bike locks

[kristen theiler]

I'm not 100% sure on this, but you may want to check some city ordinances on locking bikes to hand rails. I recall being told by a friend that locking a bike to any type of hand rail is not legal due to fire codes or something. This doesn't excuse the rude behavior of the bouncers, but they may have been legally justified to cut Amy's lock.
 
"Lane S. Wimberley" <lane> wrote:
I would also be willing to attend. Please keep us posted about time
and place, if this moves forward. Hell, we could then proceed to a
more bike-friendly venue for some beers, eh?

I think Michael's idea about how UT handled the sitch' would be an
excellent suggestion for Cedar St. Also, are there any signs up there
to let cyclists know (a) to not lock up bikes there, and preferably
(b) where to lock up bikes? That might also be a good idea --
certainly more civil than the heavy-handed tactics they currently
employ. And, you'd think the bright folks there might get a clue
after cutting a few locks...

BTW, (4) in the list below might be "reimburse Amy's bike lock cost."

-Lane


Michael Bluejay writes:
> I'm in if someone wants to plan a protest. I can't organize it, but 
> I'll show up.
> 
> If we do have a protest then we should have concrete wishes for what 
> we'd like Cedar Street to do, e.g.
> (1) provide bike parking,
> (2) install signage where they don't want bikes parked
> (3) not cut locks off bikes.
> 
> One thing that UT used to do (and may still do) if you parked at the 
> Union where they didn't want you to park, was to put their OWN lock on 
> your bike along with an insulting note, telling you to go get the 
> building manager to unlock your bike. Maybe Cedar Street could lock 
> bikes instead of cutting the customers' locks.
> 
> Regarding Dave's point about the city, there may be a failure by the 
> *City* to aggressively promote bike racks, but not a failure of the 
> City's *Bicycle Program*, since that department has done everything 
> they could to get bike racks out there with limited budget and staff.
> 
> -MBJ-
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2004, at 3:04 AM, David Dobbs wrote:
> 
> > I'd be willing to show up with two or three dozen cyclists to give 
> > these tough guys a little bicycle view point on this matter and call 
> > the press about it, too. Signs and noise outside the bar on their 
> > busiest night protesting the mistreatment of a lady would certainly 
> > make the Cedar Street owners very uncomfortable and get a lot of 
> > public sympathy. Downtown doesn't need bad neighbors or more cars on 
> > the street and a press release prepared making these points should be 
> > sent to (a) the media, (b) the Downtown Austin Alliance, (c) the 
> > Chamber of Commerce, and (d) Austin City Council Members. Television 
> > would love a protest like this as it would be very visual.
> >
> > This would also spotlight the failure of the city to be aggressively 
> > promoting bike racks and the failure of businesses to get bike parking 
> > at little or no expense to them. Bike racks are still free for the 
> > asking from the city, right?
> >
> > For the record here, I presume we are talking about the Cedar Street 
> > Courtyard at 208 W Fourth Street? That's the only bar I can find 
> > downtown with "Cedar" in its name.
> >
> > Dave Dobbs
> > ==================
> > Dave Dobbs
> > ddobbs
> > Austin, Texas
> > ==================
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thought you all would want to see this....
> >>
> >> -MBJ-
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------
> >>
> >> From: Amy Chambless 
> >> Date: September 24, 2004 4:26:22 PM CDT
> >> To: mail, stgetr, aca, 
> >> BicycleMail, stephen.kreidler, 
> >> info
> >> Subject: Lack of Racks...
> >>
> >> Hello...
> >>
> >> I wanted to inform everyone of a "policy" at the Cedar Street 
> >> bar/annex to hopefully prevent what happened to me from happening to 
> >> others.
> >>
> >> This past Thursday evening I met co-workers there for happy hour. I 
> >> am a cyclist and rode my bike downtown because I enjoy riding, but 
> >> also to help alleviate some of the traffic and parking congestion 
> >> downtown. Upon my arrival at the Cedar Street bar I discovered there 
> >> are not any bike racks, so I locked my bike to the staircase railing 
> >> that leads down to the outdoor patio. I was conscientious enough to 
> >> ensure that my bike was not in the way of passer-by's or folks coming 
> >> into the bar. Later that evening , when I returned to retrieve my 
> >> bike...it was gone! You can imagine the helplessness I felt 
> >> thinking I was stranded and that someone had stolen my bicycle. I 
> >> approached the door men at Cedar Street and was informed that they 
> >> had cut the lock off my bike and removed it from the premises 
> >> because they felt it was in their way. I explained to them that 
> >> I felt it was wrong to destroy my (or anyone ' s) personal property.
> >>
> >> The doormen returned my bike and broken lock, but told me that I was 
> >> lucky that they hadn't just thrown my bike into the street. When I 
> >> requested to speak with the owner about being reimbursed for my lock, 
> >> I was refused with the excuse that he would 'tear me to shreds 
> >> . ' The door men suggested that if I want a place to lock my bike up 
> >> , I should take it up with the city instead. They also told me 
> >> that they cut bike locks all the time .
> >>
> >> So, what?...if you park your car in front of the Cedar Street bar 
> >> and they don't like your parking job, will they break your windows 
> >> to move it ? I am appalled that after spending money in thier 
> >> facility that I would be treated so poorly. So much for trying to 
> >> make more parking spaces available for more patrons to visit thier 
> >> bar...which I will never do again.
> >>
> >> Be Warned Cyclists,
> >> Angry and without a bike lock
> >>
> >>
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