BIKE: Matters arising; Peak oil discussion meeting tonight
Roger Baker
rcbaker
Wed Nov 10 09:59:01 PST 2004
You won't find this posted on the Railroad Commission web site yet (for
some reason), but the heavy hitters in the Texas energy industry are
going to meet as follows, and they even let the public speak at the end
of the meeting.
Nov. 29, 10am, ERS building, 18th and Brazos, big room on first floor
They are supposed to issue a final report to the Governor Dec. 31,
assuming they don't get an extension.
These guys together represent many billions in energy investments. They
are facing insoluble problems of rapidly approaching peak oil plus the
difficulty of obtaining enough natural gas to feed their Gulf coast
petrochemical industry investments. They are pragmatic energy
investment managers, far less in denial of the reality of the energy
crisis than TxDOT, which is totally dominated by special interests tied
to road contracting, etc.
-- Roger
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[I'm leading a monthly non-affiliated discussion group on peak oil that
meets every month. Here's the standard monthly pitch and the material
to be covered this Wed. -- Roger]
Please join us in a six part discussion of Richard Heinberg’s book, The
Party’s Over: Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial Societies.
“The world is about to change dramatically and forever as the result
of oil depletion. Within the next few years, the global production of
oil will peak. Thereafter, even with a switch to alternative energy
sources, industrial societies will have less energy available to do all
the things essential to their survival. We are entering a new era as
different from the industrial era as the latter was from medieval
times.”
Published by New Society Publishers, the book is available at major
retailers or online from:
www.museletter.com
When: Second Wednesday evening of the month to begin August 11th;
7:00 - 8:45
Where: Daniel E. Ruiz Branch Library 1600 Grove Boulevard (north of
Riverside; west of Montopolis)
Contact: Roger Baker; 454-9060 e-mail: rcbaker
(Roger Baker)
November 10th Chapter 4: Non-Petroleum Energy Sources: Can the Party
Continue?
December 8th Chapter 5: A Banquet of Consequences
January 12th Chapter 6: Managing the Collapse: Strategies &
Recommendations
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The Party’s Over: Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial Societies
Chapter 4; Non-Petroleum Energy Sources: Can the Party Continue?
1. Consider Heinberg’s framing of the focus of this chapter to the
single question: “To what degree can any given non-petroleum energy
source, or combination of sources, enable industrial civilization to
survive the end of oil?” Is this merely polemic ? If so, what would
the alternative question be ?
2. Why is the topic of natural gas depletion characterized as: “the
crazy aunt in the attic,” “the emperor with no clothes,” “the wolf at
the door.” ?
3. Leaving aside issues with pollutants and global warming, why
doesn’t coal offer us a way to continue to fuel public and private
enterprise as we have with oil ?
4. With respect to their mining processes, what do coal and uranium
have in common ?
5. Respond to the following argument: It is poor financial planning
to invest significant capital in renewable energy systems given the
fact that you are presently subsidizing the oil and gas industries
through compelled taxation; governing agencies will similarly
subsidize renewable energy systems when the EROEI for oil and gas
becomes economically prohibitive at which point it will be profitable
for everyone to invest in renewable technologies.
6. Or alternatively, why not just wait for the price points for
renewable energy systems to match or fall below fossil fuels before
investing capital ? At the regional level, why should municipalities
expend capital on renewable technologies prior to their reaching price
points competitive with fossil fuels?
7. Cite the three reasons that hydrogen based technologies will not,
in Heinberg’s opinion, mitigate the impact of peak oil and gas reserve
depletion on industrial societies.
8. With respect to conservation, what is the distinction between
“curtailment” and “efficiency” ? Cite an example which illustrates
each. Why make the distinction ?
9. If you not read through Chapter 6: In light of the following two
assertions, what do you anticipate Heinberg’s counsel to readers might
be?
“...given the political influence of the car and oil companies and
the general corruption and inertia of the political process, the
likelihood of such a subsidy transfer [to support a hydrogen based
economy] is slim for the moment” and “If indeed none of the energy
alternatives now available has the potential (quoting Odum & Odum) to ‘
support the high levels of structure and process of our current
civilization,’ profound changes are virtually inevitable in every
sphere of human concern as oil begins to run out.”
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