BIKE: The Most Heinous Menace Out There

[Michael Zakes]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Zakes" <watcyc>
To: "Lane S.Wimberley" <lane>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: BIKE: The Most Heinous Menace Out There


> there's been talk of re-activating/re-furbishing the rail line on 4th street for
ages,
> but all of them involve the removal of all on street parking and severely
restricting
> or eliminating auto traffic (to the best of my recollection.) problem has been
> convincing the Warehouse District Businesses that this would be a good thing
> Michael F Zakes, prop.
> Waterloo Cycles
> 2815 Fruth
> Austin TX 78705
> 512.472.9253
>
> "I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons of mass
> destruction to tell the world where they are."
>
> Ari Fleischer, on July 9, 2003.
>
>
> mail
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lane S. Wimberley" <lane>
> To: "Mike Dahmus" <mdahmus>
> Cc: <forum-bicycleaustin.info>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: BIKE: The Most Heinous Menace Out There
>
>
> > I am in violent agreement with Mike on this (silly "I told you so"
> > aside).  Shoal Creek Blvd. is/was a pristine example of how compromise
> > and consensus can only benefit the majority.  Bikes will get screwed
> > for sure.
> >
> > Re: fast bikes, paved trails, etc. -- am I the only one who has had
> > the pleasure of biking the Birke-Gilman trail in Seattle?
> >
> > Re: 4th street -- This is the first I've heard of a commuter rail on
> > 4th.  What is the status of that?  (Frankly, I wasn't even familiar
> > with any commuter rail plans, but then that's what I get for living
> > under a rock...)
> >
> > -Lane
> >
> > Mike Dahmus writes:
> > > Patrick Goetz wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can understand this since, I too live in mortal fear of fast-moving
> > > > bicycle traffic.  However, I do have an issue with this:
> > > >
> > > > "The debate, as well as a 197-signature petition delivered to city
> > > > leaders by area residents, was enough to persuade the Austin City
> > > > Council to hold off on the plan last month, saying the groups should
> > > > seek a compromise."
> > >
> > >
> > > Shoal Creek, anyone?
> > >
> > > Precedent, anyone?
> > >
> > > Remember how unreasonable y'all thought I was being back then for not
> > > wanting to negotiate with neighbors about a critical transportation
> > > infrastructure project?
> > >
> > > (change gears)
> > >
> > > Why are we wasting time with stupid off-street paths like this, which
> > > are even MORE likely to encounter this kind of numbskullery than are
> > > on-street facilities, and doing it for the central city where conditions
> > > are already fairly good, when, in the year 2004, there are still no bike
> > > lanes of note in northwest Austin?
> > >
> > > Anybody want to guess how much time Linda^H^H^H^H^HColly had to spend on
> > > this nonsense?
> > >
> > > By the way, for more hoots and hollers: Capital Metro's "subsidize Cedar
> > > Park enough and they just might love us again" commuter rail line is
> > > slated to stop east of the Convention Center. When asked how they plan
> > > on getting people over to Seaholm where the "subsidize Round Rock enough
> > > and Mike Krusee just might love us" line comes in, the answer was:
> > > rebuild rail across downtown on 4th street.
> > >
> > > Anybody know of anything else slated to go on 4th street downtown? Anybody?
> > >
> > > - MD
> > >
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