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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lately I&#039;ve seen some talk elsewhere about fighting tickets that people got on a bike.&#160; Some approached the concept&#160; of fighting a ticket, even if you&#039;re guilty, as something you should do, because it often works.&#160; Others felt if you were guilty you should just pay the price.&#160; Well, whatever position you take, that&#039;s your decision, but if you do find yourself in that situation, you should know that the costs may be a lot higher than you thought ...</p><p>First of all, the City of Austin has their standard traffic fines online -- <a href="http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/court/fine_sch.htm" rel="ugc">http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/court/fine_sch.htm</a></p><p>For example, running a red light is $217.&#160; Or speeding 15 mph over the limit is $193.&#160; Passing a school bus (with the flashing red lights) is $552.&#160; All these fines apply to cyclists as well as motorists, so don&#039;t do those things.</p><p>However, the final cost may be even higher, thanks to the `Driver Responsibility Law&#039;.&#160; <a href="http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/driver_licensing_control/drp/drp.htm" rel="ugc">http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra … rp/drp.htm</a></p><p>Basically, if you get six or more points on your license, you&#039;ll have to pay $100/year for each year that you have six points or more on your license (plus $25 more per point above six.)&#160; If you&#039;re the type of person that gets a ticket once in a blue moon, then this isn&#039;t going to affect you.&#160; But if you get a few tickets at once, or a few a year, this could very well hit you.</p><p>I&#039;ve heard that moving violations on a bicycle aren&#039;t supposed to get points put on their license.&#160; I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s really true or not.&#160; It would probably be worthwhile to do what you can to make sure you don&#039;t get any points if you get a ticket (it would probably start with asking, and then checking your record after the fact.)</p><p>And of course, taking defensive driving should still be an option, just like it is in a car, and that&#039;s a good way to keep tickets off your record.</p><p>This isn&#039;t a new law (2003), but I&#039;d never heard about it until now.&#160; Clearly, it&#039;s meant more to generate revenue than anything else, but if it&#039;s the law, you&#039;ll have to deal with it.</p><p>Apparently it&#039;s even worse in other states -- a single `15 mph over the limit&#039; ticket <a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1818.asp" rel="ugc">will trigger it in Virginia</a>, costing you up to $3550.&#160; (15 mph over the limit is certainly doable on a bike, though I don&#039;t know if they treat cyclists the same way.)</p><p>On the bright side, this thing hits people convicted of a DWI extra hard.&#160; (And they were already hit pretty hard before.)</p><p>More on it&#160; --</p><p><a href="http://shapleigh.org/news/1357-from-the-senator-s-desk" rel="ugc">http://shapleigh.org/news/1357-from-the-senator-s-desk</a> (he says that 11% of Austinites have current arrest warrants out on them, mostly due to moving violations!)<br /><a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/03/362.asp" rel="ugc">http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/03/362.asp</a><br /><a href="http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/02/10/the-3-000-speeding-ticket-states-double-dip-for-basic-traffic/" rel="ugc">http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/02/1 … c-traffic/</a></p>]]></description>
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