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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, the police never called me back.&#160; I guess they still could, but I doubt it.&#160; I&#039;ll post if they do.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 01:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MichaelBluejay wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Man, what a typo.&#160; I&#039;m very sorry for the false alarm.&#160; I meant to say she NEARLY got killed.&#160; I fixed the original post.</p><p>As a lone cyclist, it was one thing when I decided to take my life in my hands by cycling.&#160; But now that I have a family, it&#039;s nerve-wracking always worrying that my wife and kids are gonna get creamed by a car or truck -- especially when things like today happen, which are not all that rare.</p><p>My wife wants us to buy a car next year, and I&#039;ll likely oblige.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Glad to hear your wife is ok.<br />Know very much how you feel. Married w/ 4 kiddos, here. Very car light, given our circumstances.<br />Enjoy your fam. Have fun. Stay safe.<br />Best, Michael.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>savanni wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>MichaelBluejay wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Okay, so my wife just got killed by a non-yielding driver, so we took the opportunity to test the reporting mechanism.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Umm... wait... Your wife just got killed?&#160; Do you mean this literally or are you setting up a hypothetical?&#160; The rest of the post doesn&#039;t match up in tone with the gravity of that event, and I have trouble understanding why *I* would be the first person to notice.</p><p>Please clarify?</p></div></blockquote></div><br /><p>My thoughts, exactly. But remainder of post was non-sequitor. And I didn&#039;t have time to post a proper reply/inquiry.<br />Thanks for clearing that up, folks.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AusTexMurf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Very nice learning example and/or reminder for everyone.<br />Thank you for posting the link to vid, btrettel.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Good to hear you appreciated the video. Please share it with others if you think it is a good example of the value of paying attention.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>savanni wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>The rest of the post doesn&#039;t match up in tone with the gravity of that event, and I have trouble understanding why *I* would be the first person to notice.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I was thinking the same when I checked my email earlier today, but I was working at UT and couldn&#039;t reply. Really glad it was merely a typo.</p><p>MichaelBluejay, I&#039;d be interested in hearing about whether the APD follows up. I&#039;ve been too busy to take a look into this.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Man, what a typo.&#160; I&#039;m very sorry for the false alarm.&#160; I meant to say she NEARLY got killed.&#160; I fixed the original post.</p><p>As a lone cyclist, it was one thing when I decided to take my life in my hands by cycling.&#160; But now that I have a family, it&#039;s nerve-wracking always worrying that my wife and kids are gonna get creamed by a car or truck -- especially when things like today happen, which are not all that rare.</p><p>My wife wants us to buy a car next year, and I&#039;ll likely oblige.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MichaelBluejay wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Okay, so my wife just got killed by a non-yielding driver, so we took the opportunity to test the reporting mechanism.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Umm... wait... Your wife just got killed?&#160; Do you mean this literally or are you setting up a hypothetical?&#160; The rest of the post doesn&#039;t match up in tone with the gravity of that event, and I have trouble understanding why *I* would be the first person to notice.</p><p>Please clarify?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cycling74 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>If there&#039;s one thing I&#039;ve learned bicycle commuting, it&#039;s that green does not mean go. Now I look both ways when the light turns green both while riding and while driving. Too many people get T-Boned because they didn&#039;t look. </p><p>PS - nice video</p></div></blockquote></div><p>+1, well said.</p><p>&quot;......a cyclist who carefully checks cross-traffic before running a light is more of a public safety menace than the red-light-running driver in this video.&quot;<br />Wow.</p><p>Treat all intersections the same, by bike and as ped ?<br />Regardless of the pretty and sometimes distracting christmas lights and colorful shapes.<br />Intersections are inherently dangerous when shared with autos.<br />Move through them when space and time needed are clear ?</p><p>Don&#039;t When They Are Not.<br />Easy enough to do.<br />Pay Attention.<br />Just like btrettel.</p><p>Very nice learning example and/or reminder for everyone.<br />Thank you for posting the link to vid, btrettel.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so my wife just nearly got killed by a non-yielding driver, so we took the opportunity to test the reporting mechanism.</p><p>She was going south on Dean Keaton, just west of I-35, trying to cross the merge lane coming from the I-35 service road, by riding in the green bicycle lane crossing, where the cars in the merge lane have a Yield to Bikes sign.&#160; She saw a white pickup approaching, and she was about to cross, when suddenly the truck ACCELERATED right through the crossing ... and then came to a screeching stop at the red light at Red River.</p><p>We called 311, the operator was sympathetic and transferred us the APD, and the APD agent dutifully took the report without blaming or questioning us.&#160; (That was a lot different from the only other time I tried to call in something like this, about 20 years ago, when the APD agent demanded to know why I wasn&#039;t riding on the sidewalk.)&#160; She said we had the option of an officer calling us back, or coming to us to take an official report, and we chose the callback.&#160; I asked what realistically the police could really do in such a situation, and she answered that they&#039;d keep an eye out for the vehicle, but she wasn&#039;t sure they&#039;d stop tho vehicle to talk with the driver.&#160; That&#039;s why we asked for the callback, so we could ask the officer what their protocol is.&#160; Clearly we can&#039;t have a system where people get tickets just because someone *says* they broke the law; that would be pretty unfair.</p><p>The name pickup said [Something] Construction, the license plate number was AJ8 8765, and the driver was a Hispanic male.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, thanks for clarifying that. I was confused.</p><p>I wasn&#039;t sure of the legality of that maneuver, but I guess it&#039;s good to know what is and isn&#039;t legal.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>btrettel wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>dougmc, this red light runner was distracted, not impatient.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Just to be clear, I was quoting some of what M1EK really did say (since he&#039;d gotten drug into the discussion), about a related but obviously different situation.&#160; I was not claiming that the driver was impatient.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>On a related note, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwIAv1jWmpg" rel="ugc">here&#039;s a video of one driver &quot;running the orange&quot;</a> (or nearly so; the light changed to red around when they entered the intersection). Some drivers often seem to prioritize making the light over the safety of others, and I think that&#039;s pretty terrible.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s actually legal in Texas -- as long as you&#039;re in the intersection before the light turns red, you&#039;ve satisfied the law.&#160; (Not saying it&#039;s a good idea, and he came mighty close to not making it, but from what I saw -- that was legal, barely.)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 03:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I did not expect that the video would spark discussion. I&#039;ll call 311 to see what the procedure is to file a complaint. I&#039;ll also email Acevedo. Thanks.</p><p>rich00, the car that when through the yellow did nothing wrong aside from texting while driving. I&#039;ve made a habit of shouting something like &quot;texting while driving&quot; when I see it happen. This seems to make some drivers put the phone down.</p><p>This was at the intersection of 38th and Speedway.</p><p>dougmc, this red light runner was distracted, not impatient. I followed them after what&#039;s shown in my video. When I confronted them, they admitted to not watching the road. They were very apologetic about it all, which is why I chose not to upload that part. Had they not been apologetic and/or blamed me, that part would have been included in my video.</p><p>On a related note, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwIAv1jWmpg" rel="ugc">here&#039;s a video of one driver &quot;running the orange&quot;</a> (or nearly so; the light changed to red around when they entered the intersection). Some drivers often seem to prioritize making the light over the safety of others, and I think that&#039;s pretty terrible.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 00:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My stopwatch says that it&#039;s about 3.3 seconds from the moment the light turns red to the moment he crosses where the crosswalk would be if it were marked and enters the intersection.</p><p>I agree, it&#039;s certainly on the high end of &quot;the light just changed&quot; and explicitly mentioned that, but it&#039;s close enough that it&#039;s not a very good counter example.&#160; (And it&#039;s clearly not &quot;a full four seconds&quot;.)&#160; That said, really good counter examples are not hard to find -- there&#039;s no reason to stick with this iffy one.</p><p>M1EK has been pretty careful about choosing his words.&#160; I certainly don&#039;t mind poking holes in what he says (and have done some of that, and you&#039;ve done far more) but I personally prefer to stick to things they&#039;ve actually said, exactly as said, and I don&#039;t recall him saying that motorists *never* run red &quot;stale&quot; red lights, only that he hadn&#039;t seen it.&#160; (That said, the video I found does disprove his &quot;Motorists don’t run red lights the way cyclists do. Period.&quot;&#160; claim pretty effectively.&#160; At least I think that is one of the ways that he has said that cyclists run red lights and motorists don&#039;t.)</p><p>If he wants to argue something, fine, but I&#039;m just pointing out that I&#039;m not aware of him saying quite what you said he said.&#160; It doesn&#039;t mean I agree with him, or that I&#039;m going to argue his case for him.</p><p>Going back to the original question, I have to wonder what Acevedo thinks he&#039;s going to do with any such reports.&#160; A license plate is *not* enough identifying information to give somebody a moving violation -- it only shows who owns the car, not who was driving it.&#160; And Texas law puts <a href="http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.14.htm" rel="ugc">puts pretty significant restrictions on when officers can give tickets</a> for a misdemeanor if they didn&#039;t personally witness the offense.&#160; At best, all I think they can do is take a report and file it away somewhere and maybe it&#039;ll come up if the owner of that car gets in more serious trouble down the road.&#160; (Such evidence was used <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120457877" rel="ugc">in the case of that doctor that brake checked the cyclists</a>, for example, but mostly he was convicted because he explicitly told the 911 operator that he wanted to &quot;teach them a lesson&quot;.)</p><p>I guess the police could go and talk to the owner of the vehicle and tell them that such things are illegal, but I&#039;ve never heard of APD doing any such thing.</p><p>But if somebody did want to follow the procedure, I&#039;d expect the place to start would be to call 311 and file a report.&#160; Not sure what going to the municipal court would do, but I guess if that&#039;s part of the procedure the 311 operator could tell you.</p><p>I&#039;d say email Acevedo and ask him.&#160; His email address is <a href="http://www.txdirectory.com/online/person/?id=31788" rel="ugc">on this page</a>.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t stand corrected.&#160; *Entering* the intersection a full *four seconds* after a the signal changes to red isn&#039;t &quot;running the orange&quot;, that&#039;s a very stale red light.</p><p>But, if M.D. wants to argue that this isn&#039;t a good counter-example (and by extension, that a cyclist who carefully checks cross-traffic before running a light is more of a public safety menace than the red-light-running driver in this video), he&#039;s certainly welcome to try.</p><p>Anyway, nobody has addressed what the OP asked about -- how to file complaints at municipal court.&#160; I don&#039;t know, and presumably nobody else does either, or they would have replied.&#160; So, I suggest calling 311 and asking to whom that kind of thing should be reported.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Now, that&#039;s hardly fair. </p><p>To bring up some of M1EK&#039;s actual words --</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Motorists don’t run red lights the way cyclists do. Period. They “run the orange” pretty often. This is a very different violation in terms of the real, pragmatic, world we actually live in. </p><p>“running the orange” means that some impatient jerk decides to keep going even though the light just turned from yellow to red.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Now, the accuracy of this statement and the &quot;end of discussion&quot; &quot;<strong>Period.</strong>&quot; aside, this driver in the video *did* run a red light that had just changed to red (about three seconds before -- certainly pushing the limit of &quot;just changed&quot;, but probably close enough that this doesn&#039;t provide a counter example.)</p><p>(And I don&#039;t think he actually said that motorists *never* run a red light that had been red for a while, but just that he had never seen it.&#160; I find that incredible and difficult to believe, as I&#039;ve seen it plenty of times, but he would be the expert on what he&#039;s seen, not me.)</p><p>That said, this &quot;related&quot; video -- <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFC9CEX0-0" rel="ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFC9CEX0-0</a> -- probably would be the counter example you&#039;re looking for.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think there must be some kind of mistake in your video.&#160; Mike Dahmus says that drivers never run red lights like that.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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